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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:48 pm Post subject: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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We are going to be working on another release for Xtreme and would like to get some feedback and suggestions. I will list our idea's and if you don't mind, please list what you like, don't like about xtreme 2.0. Some things may come out and some things will be going in.
New downloads module.
Updated shoutbox.
XHTML Compliant.
CSS 2.1 Compliant.
PHP 5.3 support (will run on php 5.3).
Possilble NEW shoutbox.
Jquery Form Validation Module.
New Capcha system (for those that believe in them).
Updated jquery scrolling code (to replace invalid outdated tags)
New advanced cache system
Theme installer and theme backup ability. (able to install themes from .zip files, only god admins can download theme backups).
Recoded and updated tutorials module.
New "content" module.
CKeditor and TinyMCE wysiwyg editors. (these are much more advanced than the fckeditor)
New staff module.
New Site Credits Module.
Updated admin disply which will have a news feed from the xtreme site and feeds for available modules and themes (that are verified to be safe and working only). This admin display will have the ability to allow the user to switch to the classic admin panel if they would prefer that instead.
1 login for users admins. This means the admin table will be removed, the users will have different levels of admin rights set by the 1st god admin. Admins will not have to login 2 different places anymore. Simply, if your an admin and you login to your user account then you are also logged into the admin with respect to your admin level of course.
AUC 1.6 update which is a lot nicer and has a lot more features. Such as you can add smilies or other things to usernames and all that fancy stuff.
Not everything is set in stone. We would like some feed back from everyone (except bayler) with any idea's you may have. J/K!
NOTE: Please don't ask for a release date, beta testing or anything of the sort at time. We will announce beta testing and release dates when we are ready to do so. We are not going to rush this release for any reason.
Thank you for your support,
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:53 pm Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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Is getting PHP 5.3 support into V1 and/or V2 not an option??
I hope the theme changes wont be much from v2 to v3..
we've just gotten rolling converting themes.. Ive probably done about 50 - 60 so far  :roll:
do we have an assembla for this project yet??? |
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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We are doing our best to keep the themes the way they are. There will be minor changes but nothing like when you upgrade from xtreme 2.0.7 to 2.0.
We are not going to get 2.0 working on php 5.3. there is just to much to change for us to do both versions, it would be an upgrade in itself which is why we decided to just move forward with other enhancements as well. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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| Theme changes depends on the mods in the forums, so far theres only a couple of changes for a couple of mods and the rest of the changes are all XHTML compliant based. When Xtreme v3 gets released it will be XHTML compliant so any theme not XHTML compliant cannot be held against us as theres alot of themes out there and not alot of people that do conversions |
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:03 am Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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| Nobody will have to make their themes css or xhtml compliant. However, if the cms is compliant then you would think that theme developers would want to make their themes compliant so users don't have issues with their members and cross browser headaches. Its really in everyone's best interest even though I hate the idea that some group decided to dictate what they thought "is compliant". But, xhtml and css 2.1 work on most major browsers the same. Not everything, but that is because Microsoft has to be different... |
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:50 am Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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May i ask why you hate MySQL queries? Without MySQL nuke wouldn't function the way it does due the mass size of it. Heres my keys points towards yours...
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<li>PHP 5.3 support (will run on php 5.3).</li>
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Hmmm ... i Smell LONG beta Testing Phase, the last PHP Upgrade inside of Evo was a nightmare.
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This wont be the case, because PHP 5.3 little changes to key functions nuke uses testing will go as smoothly as Xtreme v2 BETA testing
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<li>Possilble NEW shoutbox.</li>
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So is it NEW ? or Updated ??
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This is one im building from scratch, it will feature a fully custom shoutbox that will show up everywhere you go on the site excluding the forum admin
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<li>Jquery Form Validation Module.</li>
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Pick a Fucking Library and Go with it, also suggest ALL JS be held in its on folder directory.
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jQuery is the only like Xtreme is going to use as its simple, quick and reliable. All the jQuery will housed in a folder called js to keep it clean
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<li>New Capcha system (for those that believe in them).</li>
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I believe i wrote a topic about this crap!
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Like killigan said its for those who believe in it, by default it will be disabled
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<li>Updated jquery scrolling code (to replace invalid outdated <marquee></marquee> tags)</li>
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O great ... You know some ass hole is gonna Marquee his Name 500 miles high with 'Look Ma, i can write my name " ...
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First users will have to work out how to use it as only the documentation will explain how to use new features
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<li>Theme installer and theme backup ability. (able to install themes from .zip files, only god admins can download theme backups).</li>
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Now THIS should serve a Purpose, hope you got good Server Bandwidth though, DOWNLOAD WHORES ... Also Suggest 'Click Payed' access for Commercial Themes .. Should be an interesting way to network though.
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Eh you wouldn't make your friends God Admins if you didn't trust them with management
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<li>CKeditor and TinyMCE wysiwyg editors. (these are much more advanced than the fckeditor)</li>
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Its going overboard to have 500 BBbuttons attached to Forums, you people have a Sick addiction to these Editors !!!
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These editors will only been seens in the News module submission for example, the forum BBCode will stay intact
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<li>New staff module.</li>
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Seen it ... Not impressed, should be Soled Forum Based Data .... no need for its own SQL table... ( Waste of Space, was of SQL Queries.
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This is alot better then the old modules out there and i put alot of work into it, plus it keeps the forum staff view's ass
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<li>New Site Credits Module.</li>
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This has been a Long Time Over Due .... Single Credits page ? ( Ass hole, Stole my Idea ) !!!
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How did you guess LOL, the admin panel is jQuery controlled aswell as the main index page
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<li>1 login for users admins. This means the admin table will be removed, the users will have different levels of admin rights set by the 1st god admin. Admins will not have to login 2 different places anymore. Simply, if your an admin and you login to your user account then you are also logged into the admin with respect to your admin level of course.</li>
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Actually, this IS a good idea ... solves a lot of Admin Session Cookie Problems ... Whats the Primary Key Identifier though ??? Name or ID ???
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This solves every admin problem, ive rebuilt all the admin permissions using a much faster and cleaner function which checks for 3 admin levels now. God Admin, Super Admin and Module Admin, the difference between the 3 is that God Admin is basically well the site God and overall all permissions set, Super Admin will have fill access but ive added a new feature to were both the Edit Admins and Nuke Sentinel links are disabled so admins will have no reason to be getting banned. The modules admin is the same as before only now instead of an array like this... User,User it uses a JSON encoded array which is alot simpler and quicker for checking admin permissions. Basically the way you control admins is my secret between the devs right now but all you do is use $admdata in the admin panel and $userinfo in the main site |
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:52 am Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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Bayler, what you don't know is that our jquery library is 1 file not 50, our scrolling marquee's using jquery also use 1 library and the functions are written so its already all called. cosmetics are needed for those that want them and don't have to be used by those that don't. Css is used throughout the forums. I personally don't like compliance either since it is "CRAP", however, it is needed. PHP 5.3 upgrades doesn't mean we are stupid enough to upgrade our functions to php 5.3 when php 6 is on the way. That would be an absolute waste of time to upgrade so we can upgrade. I said it will run on php 5.3 servers and will run without errors all over the place and users will not have to do what other cms developers like "drupal" did and suggest users turn off php errors in the php.ini file. The shoutbox is already here but it uses a very outdated ajax script and conflicts with everything, so it will be upgraded to work better and in fact, LESS CRAP TO MAKE IT WORK... The new shoutbox is not the same as teh current shoutbox. It is "new" and much better which is still in development but a much needed improvement for users that want a shoutbox on their sites. the tutorials mod is also here and in need of a make over. the staff mod in the forums is complete and total crap. The new one works better and has more information for a site that needs to display "real" staff members. The text editors are for the news and things like that, not the forums. They are simply better than what is available now. The cache system in evo is nice but can be a lot faster so if it can help the site load faster why wouldn't we replace it with something better and faster? Its not going to affect your coding although you could cache parts of your mods and not other parts of it, you can do a lot more and have different levels of cache instead of just file or sql.
P.S cupcake, AJAX can speed up your site if used correctly. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:02 am Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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phpBB3 based to overwhelming to integrate?? |
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:02 am Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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Re-read my reply, i added to it
phpBB3 is actually another secret project im working on, so far i have the admin panel and forum working and i hope to finish it this year and get an xtreme version done |
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:08 am Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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Re-read my reply, i added to it
phpBB3 is actually another secret project im working on, so far i have the admin panel and forum working and i hope to finish it this year and get an xtreme version done
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very interesting..
Back to Killigan's original topic on this thread..
2 things Platinum has is the buddy list and thread kicker... have we thought about these features?? |
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:18 am Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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2 things Platinum has is the buddy list and thread kicker... have we thought about these features??
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I will take a look at the mods and see how they run, unless others agree on having these they wont be added |
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:29 am Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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thats fine.. I was not really requesting them.. just mentioning that they were in Platinum.. so those guys must have thought they were worth while .. Â just thinking out loud Â
the buddy list, kinda sounds like a neat idea... but I dont know the exact features of it
it will however be interesting to hear your opinion of these mods |
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:37 am Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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both are available, however, the thread kicker is not really a mod I like very much. the buddy list is something that we can pre-edit the files for easy install but not many people have ever shown much interest in it. They are mods that will add more crap to the server unless we can find a way to make them simple, maybe make our own versions of those mods.
PHPBB3 will not be in Xtreme 3 or 4 and probably not 5. I don't understand the hype behind phpbb3 other than the coding is different. I have used it, don't like it and it isn't as advanced as phpbb-nuke (which is what we are using). maybe the simple thing would be to... damn i had an idea, better think on it before I say anymore lol... |
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:43 am Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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thats fine.. I was not really requesting them.. just mentioning that they were in Platinum.. so those guys must have thought they were worth while .. Â just thinking out loud Â
the buddy list, kinda sounds like a neat idea... but I dont know the exact features of it
it will however be interesting to hear your opinion of these mods
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Platinum had everything they could find installed which is why it was supposed to be cms but was over 60mb and full of bugs.
the buddy list is just what it says it is. If your on a site with the buddy list you can pick someone from the site to be your "friend". And it shows your buddy when your online too! It could be a nice feature if there were more mods that would benefit from its use, such as having a shoutbox <to hell with you bayler) that you could have live chat's with users on your buddy list while on the site. Something like facebook and myspace. If there isn't anything to use with it then its really just a mod that helps people with no friends feel like they have friends online (because it says you have a buddy).  |
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:22 am Post subject: Re: Information and feedback regarding Xtreme 3! |
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Is getting PHP 5.3 support into V1 and/or V2 not an option??
I hope the theme changes wont be much from v2 to v3..
we've just gotten rolling converting themes.. Ive probably done about 50 - 60 so far  :roll:
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Well as its adding XHTML Compliance then all of the themes would need redone, although these will only small changes done alot of times
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both are available, however, the thread kicker is not really a mod I like very much. the buddy list is something that we can pre-edit the files for easy install but not many people have ever shown much interest in it. They are mods that will add more crap to the server unless we can find a way to make them simple, maybe make our own versions of those mods.
PHPBB3 will not be in Xtreme 3 or 4 and probably not 5. I don't understand the hype behind phpbb3 other than the coding is different. I have used it, don't like it and it isn't as advanced as phpbb-nuke (which is what we are using). maybe the simple thing would be to... damn i had an idea, better think on it before I say anymore lol...
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P.S cupcake, Â AJAX can speed up your site if used correctly.
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Lies i Tell you ... it ONLY speeds up after the first initial Page load ... it does the SAME fucking thing a cache system does ... ( your in essence adding ( 2 ) functions that do the same thing ( IE Ajax usually looks 'pertyer' <-- L33t Redneck Speak So Killigan can Follow Along )
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Well the whole point of AJAX is so that you dont load the things you dont want or need, and the user only loads it "On Demand", if its used like that then it will increase page load times, because you not loading the extra content untill the user wants it.
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